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To all Christians (or non Christians) Do you believe in original sin? I'm not quite decided on my views. And I'm a Christian by the way. =]
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G. I. T.
xoxo
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My father, when he was relatively young, asked the pastor of the First Congregational Church in Omaha, Nebraska(now The United Church of Christ) about the significance of Adam and Eve's expulsion from the garden, as related in Genesis. The pastor told him this narrative represented that point in time when sin came into the world and with which we have to live and struggle as St. Paul discusses in Romans 7:14-26, in which he discusses his inner battle("civil war within," if you will) between the flesh(representing sin) and the Spirit.
Gossip.
sorry ! for straight words...
Raman
Gossip.
sorry ! for straight words...
Raman
hmm....I'm not sure....I'll have to think about that one.
About original sin...I "know" about it from my Catholic catechism but whether or not I believe in it does not impact my life. I am living the best I can, being the best I can, working at being the best Christian that I can. But I would do that with or without "original sin."
Fair point. Very true.
Even before creation God had foreknowledge of our sinful nature and planned for God the son to pay for our sins, if we seek God with all our hearts and obey His Word. We always fail, but (1 John 1:9) tells us to confess them in prayer and keep trying.
Hmmm... This is going to be pretty dry... but short, and perhaps helpful.
"Original Sin" is a primarily a Catholic term. It has a very definite meaning to them. Well, some just take parts of things and call them authentic...and sloppily and dishonestly change the meaning for themselves
No matter what religion or lifestyle, good or bad, everyone is life-long affected by "Original Sin", but those 'truly saved' (and that has a very definite meaning set by those who created the term), have the best chance of being less negatively affected by original sin.
You might visit -lutherblogs- here at blogster.com...have a dialogue (public or private) with him about spiritual things.
Chas.
I don't believe in the story of Adam and Eve literally, so I guess I don't believe in "original sin" per se. But I do believe that we all are inherently sinful and need to be taught how to be "good."
Interesting idea I guess =]
G. I. T.
xoxo
Whether taken literally or as taught by some churches of religion...or taken figuratively/symbolically or as taught by other religious churches, there is an "original sin". The Adam and Eve "story" tells of a failure which led us into this original sin (and, therefore, should be cleansed in order to be clean of this sin before we are presented to God as a child of God...however, the whole story does also represent the fact that we may be conceived/created in a pure form, but once born (come into this world), we are sinners...inherent of the life as and of sin...of which we need to cleanse in order to "start clean" with the Lord, to be "born again", if you will...and then we can live according to the path we choose without the inherited sin. Other sins may follow...after all, we are sinners...but they will be of our own and not the sin we are automatically born with and will bear if we do not cleanse. Some people, whether religious or not, do not believe in original sin at all, although most will confess they believe we are all destined for sin, therefore the "seed" for it exists....which, in a way, is pretty much the same thing as original sin.
I agree with you, Jesus died purely to rid us of origianl sin, however one has to be careful, because Jesus did not die so that we could carry on sinning without punishment, he died so that we would no longer be slaves to sin. Paul says in Romans 'so what do we do? Keep on sinning so God can keep on forgiving? I should hope not' (That's the message version by the way, it was the nearest version I could find without leaving my seat). Anyway, thanks guys. God is so much simpler and so much more complex than we could ever imagine. Now that, is real food for thought =]
We are definitely all sinners and being good does not cancel our sins. Jesus died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins, but we must believe that Jesus is the Son of God. We must repent (Turn Away From) of our sin and be buried with him (Symbolically) in water Baptism. Then, Jesus will give us the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit. At that moment begins our eternal life, but at the rapture of the saints, Jesus comes back in the clouds and joins our spirit with our eternal body and off to heaven. In the meantime the Antichrist will take leadership of the world. That leads into WW3, Armageddon. Once saved jesus will always be present with us through the Holy Spirit Unbelievers end up in the flames, but we who accept Jesus are saved from the wrath of God on the children of disobedience. See my Blog (30) that I just posted. It's about the predictions of St. Malachy, an Irish Catholic in the 12th Century. Con